Some Problems With Atheism
–Sir Isaac Newton
I agree with him. If I take a moment to admire it, the way it grasps, the way it swivels and pivots through so many planes and angles, it also seems to me to suggest the handiwork of an intelligent hand.
Of course the prevailing view says that, no, the thumb is not the result of God’s handiwork, it’s the result of time plus chance, and millions of years of random mutations. I think that view requires quite a bit more mental gymnastics than
Or how about reasoning by analogy? Let’s say that every time to encounter a certain phenomenon, the cause is always x. You encounter the phenomenon again but the cause is obscured, and based on past experience you assume to cause is, again, x. Take written information. Think of every time you have encountered it: a recipe, a poem, a stop sign, an ad, a piece of graffiti. Every time you encountered written information, you automatically concluded that it was the result of an intelligent hand, and not natural forces like erosion. Well guess what? Furled around the nucleus of your every cell is a strip of written information ten atoms wide and two metres long, a hundred million miles of DNA in every human individual. On this strip of written information, using an alphabet of only four characters—adenine, cytosine, thyamine, and guanine—is written the recipe to make you, all the endless details that comprise your person, including the recipe to make your brain, which is, by the way, by far the most complex object in the known universe. So here you have again a piece of written information that just happens to be the most complex piece of written information ever observed. Wouldn’t it be reasonable to make the same assumption that you made every other time you encountered a piece of written information, that it is the result of not time plus chance, but is the result of an intelligent hand?
Last year I had a very enjoyable conversation with a friend about this topic. He was unimpressed with the argument I put forward in the previous paragraph, and concluded that I don’t understand how evolution works and the way scientists use the terms ‘random’ and ‘chance.’ My friend is a very bright guy so I concede I could just be missing something here, and he is quite right that the talk of ‘random’ and ‘chance’ mutations is a big red flag for me. Here’s why: whatever those words mean to a scientist, which I admit I am not, to me they are pretty much synonymous with ‘meaningless.’ You know, if something’s random, it’s devoid of any recognizable pattern. And however God created the world, however God created you, there was nothing meaningless about it. On the contrary, human life, and your life personally, are just bursting with meaning, in my view.
One canard that has become cliched from over-use is ‘If there is a loving and all-powerful God, why is there so much nastiness and pain in the world?’ That’s a valid question (and one that deserves a serious lengthy response. I recommend curious readers seek out The Problem of Pain by C.S. Lewis, Where Is God When It Hurts by Philip Yancy, and the books of Ravi Zacharias for thoughtful discussions of those sorts of problems) but no one ever seems to point out that the obverse of that question is just as valid a question. Why does the atheist never have to answer the challenge of: ‘If there is NOT an intelligent and all-loving God at work in the cosmos, why should the cosmos be full of so much beauty? Why am I able to experience joy, or pleasure, or satisfaction?’ I really don’t think the problem with belief in God is a problem of lack of evidence. On the contrary, I think one can see evidence for His existence everywhere one looks, whether one examines the thumb, the Horsehead Nebula, Saturn’s rings, or the ingenuity and imagination of humans who deny His existence.
After a long and fascinating career and millions of published words, Christopher Hitchens finally has a blockbuster hit on his hands with God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything. I marvel at the title. What’s the word that professors love writing in the margins of poorly-footnoted essays? Oh yes: ‘Prove?’ Religion poisons ‘everything,’ every single time, does it? What about the Chartes Cathedral, or the Sistine Chapel, or John Milton’s poetry, or the food and medical assistance provided to the poor by the Samaritan’s Purse Christian charity group, for example? Does Hitchens’ book demonstrate, chapter and verse, how the achievements on my hastily-assembled list were ‘poisoned’ by the religious devotion of the men who accomplished them? Er, no, it does not. There is not a pimply-faced undergrad in all the land who’d be allowed to get away with such a loosey-goosey thesis statement.
One effective, if underhanded, method of winning an argument is to frame it in your own terms before the debate has even begun. This is what the celebrity atheists like Hitchens, Dawkins, Dennett and Harris have managed to do by marketing their movement as a battle between science and faith. I wonder how they manage to get away with it; so much of their house of cards is built on illogic and cheap shots that would cost them major points in a formal debate club, but nobody ever seems to call them on it. Firstly, science vs. faith is a dichotomy made useless by its falseness: of course there have been many great scientists who also had great religious faith, and of course there are many people who aren’t scientists who have no faith. So what?
Their inaccurate description of the debate is a clever rhetorical feint that lets them beg the question and stake out the high ground: here are the atheists on this side, the sophisticated geniuses of science and reason and intelligence and truth, and here are the religious people on the other side, the uneducated, simple-minded superstitious Okies. Look at all the crazy things religious people believe! Aren’t we special for having moved beyond all that? As Hitchens says ‘The telescope and the microscope have made God obsolete.’ Now I’m not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I don’t know how telescopes and microscopes can help an individual answer questions like ‘Why was I born?’ or ‘What is the purpose of my life?’ or ‘What is right?’ or ‘What is wrong?’ or ‘Why?’ Hopefully Hitchens’ next book will flesh out that assertion in greater detail.
The atheists’ rhetoric is so weak it’s fascinating to see it possess such strong media ‘legs.’ ‘Religion poisons everything’ and ‘atheists are the smart kids in this debate’ are counterfactual and ahistorical statements. Rembrandt van Rijn was a man of great religious devotion, and also history’s greatest painter. Sir Isaac Newton was a man of great religious devotion, and also history’s greatest scientist. Fyodor Dostoyevsky was a man of great religious devotion, and also history’s greatest novelist. Beethoven was a man of great religious devotion, and also arguably history’s greatest composer. For the thesis of the celebrity atheists to hold water, these four men must be viewed as pitiful deluded simpletons, a leap which requires a far greater leap of faith than I can personally muster. Far from ‘poisoning’ their lives, their religious faith inspired their awesome accomplishments. And Crime and Punishment isn’t just inspired by Christianity: it’s about Christianity. The Brothers Karamazov isn’t just about religious experience: reading it is a religious experience. My prediction: people will still be admiring the ‘Ode to Joy’ and reading Crime and Punishment long after today’s atheist bestsellers have been recycled back into pulp. God, and the God-shaped hole inside of you, can’t be wished away as easily as some folks might like.
And here’s a nifty piece about the transformational effects of globalization…on 17th century Holland.
And here’s David Frum on Durban 2.
And here’s Allen Abel touring John McCain’s high school, where his nicknames included–sigh–’McNasty’ and ‘the Punk.’
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=313991&p=1
February 26th, 2008 at 10:02 am
Hi Darrell, This is a very good post. I think I know where you lost the arguement with your friend. Remember Hitchens’ mistake? He include those unfogiving words, ‘Everything’ and ‘Always’. So did you, in the beginning.
Remember the discussion about the pencil? You started out by claiming that people sometimes make the mistake of assuming that just because something is ‘x’ each time you experience it, (the rest of that sentence should be) does not make it true.
For example, each time I ate ice cream, I gained weight. Then I started to exercise. I hadn’t had ice cream for a while, so I got some before exercising. I lost the weight this time. ‘X’ has now failed the test or arguement or debate. There is the loophole.
You may want to try this. It is pretty risky and daring, but why not start with the Truth? I know. We think that we have to come up with something they may understand or relate to, but this is not true. Remember Romans 1:18-32. Study these verses. Also, try these: Colossians 4:2-6. It kind of balances those two concepts (truths).
God bless your family and you, and have a wonderful day.
February 28th, 2008 at 8:35 am
Dear Darrell,
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March 6th, 2008 at 9:07 pm
Oh yes, Darrell, you are such the philosopher. I’m amazed at how well you have constructed no argument at all, I’m shocked that you see that the thumb is amazing and I’m appalled that you can find the time between prayers to blog.
You really don’t understand evolution, you don’t get it at all. As soon as you can admit you know nothing about it, nor that you don’t understand atheism, you might get somewhere. Until then you’re just one of those random idiots on the interwebs trying to justify your own belief in the face of all evidence showing that Nature is all that there is.
Why should anyone waste their time explaining things to you until you can stop being a twit?
March 11th, 2008 at 5:49 am
Hi, Binkyboy, thanks for commenting. Is everyone in the world who thinks differently than you a twit, or how does it work? I don’t think you are a twit.
March 12th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
It is very telling that a discussion about atheism ends up a discussion about evolution.
Binky, I will ask you: do you understand evolution? The theory suggests change over a period of time while assuming function allows the ‘life’ to exist and continue without the ‘changes’. It doesn’t hold water.
Let me explain. Our heart is a very specific functioning unit of the body. At what stage of evolution could the heart have actually been a heart if any of the very precise components were lacking? Evolution assumes that the heart became this amazing functioning unit over time. I suggest that at no time could a living body reproduce in any suggested stage of evolution if the heart was in an incomplete stage.The heart is a very complicated organ…involving electrical, chemical and physical elements to work very precisely.There isn’t an ‘in between’.And if those elements don’t work in precision, oxygen doesn’t get where it is needed and we know the rest of the story…death.The heart has been Designed..by a Designer.
That truth goes for every part of out body, and each living element…flora and fauna.
BTW Binky I don’t think the time I have taken to discuss this with you is wasted.
Great blog Darrell.
March 14th, 2008 at 3:22 am
Ask Binkyboy for the concrete evidence that evolution has happened. If he’s like most laymen who believe in evolution, he’ll have a hard time quoting anything specific. Without such evidence, the Fairy Magic Theory of Life is just as valid.
I have an interesting theory that explains how the existence of malevolent and death-causing features in Intelligently Created life doe not negate the existence of a benevolent God.
Hint: It has to do with the corruption of sin and the meddling of the tempter.
The Sin Theory of Evolution - Reconciling Evolution, Creationism and Intelligent Design
March 14th, 2008 at 10:24 pm
Yeah, I will have a “hard time” proving anything to you idiots.
And it isn’t that I “believe” differently, it is that I understand the science and how much stronger it is than your mysticism and willing ignorance of facts.
Transitional forms, Scott. Maybe you’ve heard of them?
As for the heart, or the eye, or anything else for that matter, those are all dealt with pretty scientifically. Complex to you doesn’t mean complexity to everyone else. You are so afraid to admit to what you don’t know or don’t understand. Hubris maybe? Or just a massive ego?
If you really want to give me difficult questions, though, I suggest you go where all of your idiot compatriots go when they think they have one on evolution: replication of cells. Or maybe you can go with protein folding?
As for proof, I see proof everyday, but none of it is proof you’ll even comprehend. You people think you should see life spring up in a jar of peanut butter or that bananas prove intelligent design.
March 17th, 2008 at 5:41 pm
Slightly off-topic, Binkyboy, but I’ curious. Last time you called me a twit, this time it’s an idiot. Don’t you think it’s important to use good manners at all times, even when–maybe especially when–dealing with someone you disagree with? I don’t think you’re an idiot.
March 18th, 2008 at 2:46 am
Sorry Binky Boy…ad hominem only weakens your attempt.
The science of chemistry, electricity and physiology of cardiology only prove that there could be no ‘transitional form’. It just would not function. The same goes for the very specific science of osmosis and electrolyte balance that are the keys of the functioning kidney. A transitional form wouldn’t be possible.And those are just two systems of the highly functioning body. There aren’t any ‘in betweens’ or ‘almost theres’
But if you want to discuss that science feel free …
January 25th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
Excellent essay, and a lively discussion. As an ophthalmologist, I can admit that I am constantly fascinated by the wondrous complexity of the eye. This is clearly an organ that was designed intelligently. While some evolutionists can point to more primitive eyes as evidence of evolutionary stages, I would counter that all of these stages of development could just as well have been created by Hashem (the Hebrew substitute for G_D.) Consider this thought experiment: If some distant future archaeologists uncovered the Detroit Auto Museum, and found rows of cars, each one slightly more refined, complex, and detailed, would they conclude that the cars evolved as a result of random mutations (or random design decisions?) I would like to think that Detroit’s designers put some thought into successive car models. As both a scientist, and a believing Jew, I have no trouble reconciling evolutionary changes with intelligent design. As Einstein once said, Hashem doesn’t play dice with the universe. Life does have meaning. Life is beautiful. Nihilists can be frustrating, and sometimes they can be dangerous.